Mar19

Di Marzio: “Inter Have Moral Obbligation To Sign Gargano Permanently “

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Gianluca Di Marzio, transfer expert, updates us on the situation of Walter Gargano. The Uruguayan midfielder is on loan at Inter with right to purchase but a pact of moral between both clubs sees this purchase as mandatory.

“For Gargano, I think he will be signed permanently. This is a situation similar to that of Armero for Napoli. The choice is optional but for the moral and friendly pacts, it has become an obligation. The figure is around 5 million euros  and only if Napoli ask Inter to not sign, then that could change things.”

On Walter Mazzarri.

“De Laurentiis is convinced that Mazzarri will renew with Napoli, the club of his first choice. For this, Inter would have to turn to other coaches.”

Source: Radio Marte

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  • Rafael Vieri

    He earned it.
    But I was wondering, What about Silvestre? Do we have any moral obligation to sign him too?
    I like Silvestre a lot, but I’m not convinced I may be the only one.

    • isaac

      i kinda like him. he is a decent player, good enough to be backup. he has a low salary and he doesnt complain in the bench.
      and with palermo very likely to get relegated, we might be able to sign him very cheaply.

      • Rafael Vieri

        I agree. I was told his pricetag was 6M Euros, I don’t think that’s true. But if we could get him for 3M or something, I’d find good signing.

        • hasse77

          But didn’t he have a rather high salary? With Campagnero and Andreolli coming next season, wouldn’t the high salary be too much for a “backup”?

          • Rafael Vieri

            High Salary…not that I know of. Probably not, because he was never considered a star or anything. Probably his wages are low. Silvestre is also fairly young, so IF Chivu and/or Samuel leaves us, he may be the one to substitute them on the squad. Because hypotetically we would have: Andreolli,Juan,Rannochia,Campagnaro, Silvestre. This could be enough for the next season. But if Samuel and Chivu stays, then there’s almost no reason to sign Silvestre.

          • Ognjen Dakic

            I thin Silvester has 2 mil (even 2.5 Im not sure) per year what is too much

          • Rafael Vieri

            That really is too much, if it’s true, then he’s gotta go, but if I’m not mistaken we paid 2,5 M euros for the loan, not for the “per season” wages. But I may be wrong, I hope sobody knows more about this.

          • Sina

            The compensation to Palermo is €2.5M for the loan, indeed. His per-season wage at Inter, with bonuses comes out to just under €3.5M. That’s more than Alvarez, Guarin, Zanetti, Handanovic, Kovacic, and Milito. I think he is a talented player who has had a terrible spell at Inter (I think this just sums it up) and he still has great potential if he works hard. He is just like Jonathan… the angry fans will scream at him, but they haven’t seen the true potential just yet. Still… €3.5M is extremely high for my valuation, especially in post-FFP years when we are in severe debt.

          • Rafael Vieri

            In that case, I guess there’s no point keeping him. Not with Samuel,Chivu,Juan,Rannochia,Andreolli,Campagnaro and Caldirola on the Squad. I feel sorry for Silvestre, but maybe he’ll have more lucky somewhere else.

          • Sina

            Spot-on. I hope he will find his potential elsewhere. He isn’t a bad lad at all. It’s just our problem that we happen to have an abundance of resources in defense for 2014! With Icardi and potentially Sanchez coming in, a fully-recovered Milito, Palacio, FantAntonio staying… the attacking line is mind-bogglingly phenomenal. And the midfield of specialty, with a physical Gargano, Cuchu, tactical Kuz, Guarin as a regista with our starlet Mateo… Laxalt, Alvarez, Il Gago… and several more in this department, I see our squad as top material. Plus, our youth system in Viareggio feeding in Mbaye, Benassi, the loaned-out players… no problems whatsoever. Caldirola? Maybe next year. He is still on-loan to Brescia and not fully owned by Inter. Hope we don’t ‘pull a Viviano’ on him.

            We have all the potential to win the CL or get in high grounds. Strama is learning more and more… extreme output comes from a journey, not from an overnight coaching change through chance. This year was a time to learn and reflect. Next year? It’s all about pure deployment and Blitzkrieg away.

          • Rafael Vieri

            I gree. That’s why I can’t wait for the next season to start, man. We’ll finally have a full rejuvenated squad, a lot of options. Hopefully, if we get Sanchez(?), Iccardi right Defender + number 10 I’m positive we’ll achieve Champions league and on the next one, when everybody is finally adapted to Calcio, we’ll start winning throphies regularly again. We’ll be once more the Great Inter.

          • Sina

            This! YES!

            Right Defender… I wonder if Peruzzi will happen? He has played on the right as well, and he is fairly good… so he will be a switchable player. Next season is truly exciting… perhaps more than ever before due to the uncertainty. The open-ended options and rejuvenation is superb. We will achieve many feats. For this season ending in several weeks, I have the Coppa Italia in mind. With the extra time to adapt for all of our new players, we can form tactical options that the players can implement far better than before.

          • Rafael Vieri

            Peruzzi is great. He defends like a true italian from the 80s and 90s, the era when the left backs, like favalli, were actually left central defenders, like if peruzzi has always been a central defender who just happens to be playing on the right back position. It’s exactly what we need if we’re gonna use a regista + guarin on the 3 line. I’m looking forward for him to come to Inter. (might as well have Jung for back him up)

            The coppa Italia most of the times are not that special for a team..but this season for us it’s different. We have a coach that needs a tittle to prove himself and we’re going through the rejuvanating process that’ll most likely lead to at least the next season without many hopes of throphies (until everybody is fit and adapted to italiy). So winning the Coppa italia this season would be AMAZING for our future, it would held the press and the fans down, while we take our time doing what it must be done. If we win this one, i’ll probably celebrate as much as I did when we won it after a long time…if I’m not mistaken it was 2005 with Mancini. We were struggling to win thropie for so long..last one was the copa Italia in 1998…and the coppa italia came….that was the starting point of the reborn great Inter (solidified by Mancio and lead to glory by Mourinho)

            I hope this season can be like that for us.

          • Sina

            Excellent point about Peruzzi!

            It’s pretty remarkable how the Coppa Italia is so meaningful to us for changing our ways. A win this season will be so phenomenal that it’ll have me celebrating like we did for the Champions League final… LOL. You can certainly tell how being trophy-less since the Leonardo days will keep us VERY hungry.

          • Ognjen Dakic

            I know that we paid 2.5 for loan with right to purchase at 9 mil (bruto) 2.5+6.5.But I think I somewhere read that we ageed with Silvestre about wages at 2-2.5 mil /per year if we buy him at the end od season.

          • Rafael Vieri

            That’s a lot of money, man. Probably a bad decision from Inter. He has to go then.

          • Sina

            Speculations are coming that he is either going to be accepted with a very low spread-contract or that he is back to Palermo. They need to sell him immediately though as they will not be able to afford him.

          • Rafael Vieri

            with we can reformulate the deal all together, Silvestre may still be a good option, but only if Samuel and Chivu leaves. Otherwise, I guess keeping him would be to waste money, he is not playing this season, imagine next one when we’ll have more options.

          • Sina

            A slightly higher figure, but you’re right… spot-on from what Repubblica had in January.

          • Sina

            He has one of the highest wages in the world for a loaned player. It is more than many of our starters and regular players. From my understanding, only 4 Inter players have higher salaries than that of his. He will get the bonuses for the few games in 2013 and his total compensation will be nearly €3.5M.

          • Rafael Vieri

            Wow…did Inter really have that much hope on Silvestre?
            that’s weird. Still, I like the player, but I wouldn’t that much for him, that’s for sure… he’s gotta go then.

          • Sina

            Sadly, yes. The guy has potential, but he isn’t showing his entire worth. I completely agree with your perspective here.

          • Sina

            This. Exactly. His salary is close to 90% of that of Samuel. Not a low salary, at all. No idea why people are saying this. It’s €2.75M in 2013 without bonuses and compensation. He is the highest priced player on-loan (in Serie A, at least).

          • isaac

            io pensato che il suo ingaggio era 1.5mil… scusa

          • Sina

            Non sei affatto ignorante… ho visto l’€2.75M sulla Gazzetta per il suo stipendio.

      • Sina

        I think he is stuck between wanting to return to Palermo to get more playing time and gaining prestige in a large club. He thinks this will be as high as his career will get.

    • Inter24/7

      U gay…

      • Rafael Vieri

        I’m not gay at all, don’t worry.

        • Inter24/7

          Your photo tells another story… And im not, just dont put ya mouth up in owners ass.. Its not good for you..

          • Rafael Vieri

            Here you are…looking at my picture….trying to discuss about a man’s picture… so I guess I’m not the one that’s gay around here…I guess your secret was discovered now…haha. but don’t worry, I won’t judge you, none of us will. But considering you’re pointless, I won’t reply anymore. Only when you decide to talk about Inter, that’s what it matters anyway,

          • http://twitter.com/mongkih mongkih

            am straight, and as my conscience said, i never interested in clicking man’s profile pic to see at the details. if you’re a girl, then yes, i’ll click on it. so now, who’s the gay?. but whatever, haters will hate.. Rafael, just let ‘em be

          • Rafael Vieri

            Now that I saw what he said to Sina, the boy is mentally sick. He does have issues, big ones. Even though I’m not gay, he hated me for the fact that he thought I was…that’s just lack character, Manners, Brain..all of it. Better feel sorry for him than hate him. But anyway, I’ll take your advice and let him be.

          • Sina

            I think we have come to the 21st century with respect for everyone around the world to not judge anyone by their pictures. I don’t know what about Rafael’s photo sparks homosexuality, but there is nothing wrong with the concept, unless one is a medieval knight who just imposes their personal beliefs for others to live by. One of the most intelligent people who I know, my former university house-mate from years ago, was gay. Hope we can come on the same page here.

          • Boss #1

            If your “friend” was so smart why he gay then..
            Thats the most disgusting shit ever.. You wil burn in hell for that shit.. I bet u itailen too.. U better go to them milan fans.. Alot of gays over they.. And stop suckin each other.. Fuckin fags.. U dont know shit bout football.. As i wrote dont put ya mouth up in ass.. You two fags start protect him.. Bitches!! .. And please dont call me mate..

          • Sina

            I find it baffling and am truly amused that anyone would thumb-up your comment, but I don’t mind.

            Surely, if you want to call me names, it doesn’t bother me, but don’t take it out on Rafael because he is an Interista who contributes a lot to this site. It is without dignity and sense, especially as he has never said anything against you.

            I suppose your hate against Italians brings you to a site about an Italian club, right? Intriguing…

            Also, don’t EVER insult AC Milan fans. They’re some of the most respectable and appreciative all-around Europe; they supported Inter in the Europa League, were cheering for us in 2010 as well as throughout 2011. And this is coming from an Inter Ultra.

        • Sina

          Comments dealt with. Let me know if anything of the likes ever comes up again.

      • Sina

        Are you angry at him for liking Silvestre? If you have a voice to insult, then I think he should have the voice to declare a player that he finds useful too, mate.

    • Sina

      You’re not the only one, but I am not one of those few, simply because he is a Juventino (nothing wrong with/against Juve), but having a player who plays for one team and likes the rival is a huge pet-peeve of mine. Sort of Balotelli-ish on this.

      And no, there is no mutual agreement or completion between Palermo and Inter to sign Silvestre.

      • Rafael Vieri

        It’s ok..I don’t care about the down votes, I just speak my mind and respect everybody. People are entitled to agree or not to me.
        But there is this Inter24/7 guy calling me gay and Stuff. That’s just weird, but probably a 15 years old which too much time on his hand.

        I didn’t now know that Silvestre was a Juventus Fan….where did you get this information from? Well, now that I know that he costs us a lot of money and he is a Juve fan, I don’t like him anymore. He can move somewhere else then.

        • Sina

          I admire your attitude and words, as you already know… from my reference and recommendation to Michael. I don’t see a down-vote as a disagreement, since I have debated with others before and I haven’t voted their comments down. I do agree that everyone should speak their heart and mind. Respect shouldn’t just be limited to a UEFA slogan and badge!

          Inter24/7? I would have calmly had a respectable word with him, but Michael hasn’t decided to make me a Disqus Mod [not YET... perhaps. I'm not sure if he ever will with my inconsistency]. Take it with a grain of salt. In one ear, and out the other… if you do find it offensive. Otherwise, meh… gender and sexuality are socially-constructed concepts and those who think that being gay is something that they could say to insult others and label them, are still living in pre-historic times. As an Italian Interista, I live in an environment/world where being homo/bi/trans/multi/asexual are all not only okay, but also just as welcomed as being heterosexual. It means that everyone is equal to one another. It eliminates a huge discrimination, like racism and age preference, biases that have been foolishly developed by the society and fed/shoved down our throats by governments and leaders who should have no more say than us. I say this all as a straight man who has all types of friends… even gay ones and love all of them for their inner beauty and personality.

          Silvestre as a Juventino? Everyone in Sicilia knows that he has sought to transfer to Juve since his pre-20 years. In Italy, we know many things that a lot of Interisti around the world miss out on. Simply because this is the center of it all (sadly for the Inter fans around the world).

          Hopefully, we can find a solution for him. Perhaps he has changed since and also has a less-demanding salary. Otherwise, most sources are leading him to the door.

          • Rafael Vieri

            Thanks for recommending me to Michael. I like this site a lot and would be more than glad to help. Sadly I can’t.I would feel weird to take a job just for the prestige and then didn’t have the time to do a good job. I’ve been spending a lot of time here, so that means I write too much and maybe people see me as someone who’s trying to take over the site or something, Which I do not. It’s just I work on the internet like I said, so Fedenerazzura is what I do between one project and another, it’s fun to help the day go by…

            I don’t think it’s necessary yet to take any measures on Inter 24/7 because maybe it’s not even him there, may be just someone else posting with his nickname, a milan fan, or maybe his childsh younger brother, who knows? But if persists then I’ll talk to Michael about it. I hate prejudice, racial, sexual, whatever,..it’s something that at a website I wouldn’t mind to ignore, like I’ll do for now, but then I think about that Zorro incident in Italy, and now the recent one against Adebayor,,,it saddens me to think that people that love Inter like I do are actually bad human beings. That’s why I don’t judge or hate anyone. My family thought me better than that. Thanks for taking your time and offering your help.

          • Sina

            Rafael, no need to thank me for your awesomeness… I have yet to take the suggestion! I have a bit of clarification to do. I know of your praise for the site and enjoy reading your comments. Don’t worry about what the offensive others think.

            Haha! When you said you would feel weird to take the position just for prestige and don’t have time to do a good job, I immediately thought about myself! I seriously need to post more, especially because I myself feel extremely bad about it. Granted, I have a chockfull of posts down the pipeline, so I am not out. I never thought you would do anything but a good job, referring to those comments of yours.

            I think it’s ridiculous for people to assume that your thorough contributions signify that you are “taking over the site” unless they’re thinking without their mind. No one needs to make these claims… it’s great that you’re here! I used to be a Top Commenter until not too long ago, but my spell is probably over as I have been hit with a load of errands from the career world. I like what you do on FN anyway between your projects… making the day better one step at a time!

            It looks like he is commenting on some posts with anger and hate… maybe childishly as you said. He is certainly not our Inter24/7 because I can see from the Administration Module that he isn’t logged in and is making comments as an unregistered user with a nickname. I will take it up with Michael should things go further.

            I stand WITH you against all prejudices, racial, sexual, age, gender, practices, personal opinions, etc. I want to tell you something… they will continue to exist as long as malicious people in our society do their fair share. It CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be ignored because it is plaguing the world.

            YES… Racism in Italy and in games… Zorro incident, Adebayor, Balotelli, Eto’o, Boateng… let me detail those. The education system, Italian culture and familism have much to explain its foundation. I am writing an article on this that I will publish next week along. I also have a ranking of UEFA in recent reports since February and an overall table board to publish along.

            I am part of the Boys S.A.N. Ultra here in Italy and it is sad for all of us that amongst us at a club that promotes and breathes internationalism even in its own name (Inter), we have to sit next to bad human beings who believe in extremely disgusting virtues as we do. The trouble is that clubs like Lazio, Chievo, Tottenham, and Malaga have had historic racial troubles… but it makes us insane that we are now part of this group despite our brand’s worldly suggestion. I too choose to never judge or hate… we were both taught better than such behaviors.

        • http://twitter.com/mongkih mongkih

          don’t ever let your passion toward inter distracted by such a shallow comment or offenses Rafael, you’re one hell of great interista as lots of others here

          • Rafael Vieri

            Thanks.. I was just impressed, really….because I’m not doing anything special on the picture. I’m not gay, obviosly, but he then said I was because of my picture or because I said I liked Silvestre as player haha. Imagine if he saw me talking about/ defending Mariga or Alvarez like I’ve been doing, he would freak out… hahaha.
            Anyway…I’l work pass that unfortunate incident.

          • Sina

            Don’t sweat it. This is why we need further moderation as communities grow to ensure that our members are happy instead of being tortured by ruthless and offensive remarks.

            On this site, I want everyone to be comfortable with who they are, regardless of race and sexual orientation. Living in agony is not an option here.

          • Sina

            Kudos to mongkih for always bringing it back home smoothly with appreciation!

      • isaac

        che? silvestre e un juventino?? de quando?

        • Sina

          Sì, sì! Egli era un Juventino fin da quando era molto giovane. Sicilia!

          • isaac

            ma e ancora un juventino?

          • Sina

            Buona domanda. Egli avrebbe potuto cambiare. Non si sa se è ancora un Juventino oggi.

  • Steven Heryanto

    With this logic Inter was immoral to leave Poli last summer

    • Rafael Vieri

      Yeah..immoral and stupid. We should’ve kept him.

    • isaac

      i couldnt agree more

    • ororo

      with this logic, i believe we wont sign Gargano either

    • Chalon

      Not really. The difference was that Sampdoria tried to raise the price based on a technicality in the agreement, so THEY tried to play dirty, and Inter said fuck you!

      • Steven Heryanto

        Why don’t you give us the actual source?

        • Sina

          I like your point on the Poli ordeal last summer, however, one can do a quick search on the Interwebz to find out that Sampdoria did indeed raise the market price so that they would gain more money from Inter, after the completion of the loan. Napoli is not doing this with Gargano. If anything, it’s technically even less expensive than it was in the beginning of the season.

  • Memo

    Have anyone noticed that players decide to come to Inter then start playing like shit…i used to watch Napoli and Gargano and he was a monster in the midfield..intercepting and passing and so quick….now with us he can barely pass or even take the right position …..the same with alvaro periera…with porto he was great i was one of the fans…he seems to be one of the great left back players …now with us he can barely make a right cross over or run forward without the ball intercepted….i wish someone would explain to me why players lose their skills when they land in Intermilan .

    • mo1908

      I agree with you 100%. . . You forget about scheloto. . . Whe imdter played in bergamo he was running up and down make agressiv tackles and good passing and now he is moving like a robot loosing the ball and cant shot. Only good thing was his goal in the derby

      • Memo

        I dont think we can judge schelotto now , we haven’t seen him that much play for even a whole game….we can judge gargano ..alvaro periera ..such players we seen them with their teams and they took lots of chances wit inter and didnt prove themselves like they proved themselves on their ex teams .

    • AREK MALANG

      because INTER is one of the biggest team in the world…………

    • Rafael Vieri

      Thanks, that’s exactly what I said on the other topic, the players are doing awesome on their teams, we buy them and they stop playing well. Then we Blame Branca for the bad negotiation, it’s just unfair.. to the guy. How the hell was we supposed to know that Pereira would go to one of the best left back in the world to an unconsistent one the second he arrived at Milan? I still have high hopes for him though, he was great at porto..he’ll play like that for Inter next season, once he’s fully adapted to the Calcio.

      • Memo

        Listen i agree we can’t always blame Branca for everything …but i think everyone have to take some of the blaming …..and if you look at it…its Moratti who have to get the biggest share of blaming …why?..because simply..if he supplied more money …we would have had a bigger coach and superstar players ….but at the same time i think Branca could have made better choices with the negotiations….i think we could have brought to Inter better players wit less money …..i mean who the hell tries to buy Rochi lol…….with strama i have a couple of notes….i dont see him talking to the players from the line …i dont see no reaction at all from him no emotions no anger when a player does something stupid…i think its because of his age and experience he doesnt have that much influence on the players….have you seen how many times Guarin tries to dribble while he can’t dripple ?…have you seen his shots from the centre of the field that goes flying to the crowd…then you look at strama and he’s too quiet not saying a word to the players or even yelling at them …we have good players..they need to have rules…i would put gargano and cambiasso in the midfield just to defend the midfield..not to attack…n i would put kovacic infront of them and make him play make …..thats our biggest problem..the midfield…we bought kovacic and we dont even play him or have given him the trust to be our play maker of the team…watch videos on youtube for that kid he has lots of potentials…but we didnt give him the chance to show it .

        • Rafael Vieri

          I agree..Sharing the blame is what is all about. Everybody has to be responsible for the mistakes. Moratti has always been the kind of president who take the matters on his own hands and left little room for directors or even coaches to do his job. I can’t even count how many times Recoba was fielded when he had no condition just to please Moratti. About Strammacioni, once again, I kinnda agree. Personally I don’t mind the fact he doesn’t scream to the players, because some coaches are tactician and they don’t yell, they just change and talk to the players. I’m fine with that, BUT…I’ve read a commentary that was posted here buy an ex player(?) that said with Strammacioni the players didn’t developed nothing compared to last season. That’s what is worring me about him..because with a young squad it’s imperative to know how to develop the player. One more important thing to do is fielding a team that’s best fit for the players you have. There’s no point fielding a 4-3-1-2 team with Guarin as AMF, that will only slow us down. He is making our best player, Guarin, to be hated by the fans because he’s doing badly, and now people are starting to focus their attention on the bad things he does, like trying to dribble everywhere on the pitch. That’s something he always did ( and I also find to be a stupid thing) but people would never focus on that 3 months ago, when he was playing were he actually knows how to play : the 3 line.

          Kovacic is a bright boy, I’m sure he’ll succeed at Inter. I only see a couple of games of him (fully) before he moved to inter but the ones I’ve seen he was always on the 3 line, so I’ve never seen him play as an AMF role. Which I don’t doubt he’ll do great at, because he’s so skillfull passing the ball….BUT last game, against totteham he played like a regista and was the best man on the pitch, stolen loads of balls and played with his head high distributing the game. I would like to see him play as a regista at Inter, at least for the rest of the season.

          • Sina

            *Extremely well said. This should be somewhere on the front page for everyone to see!

      • Sina

        You are hitting the nail on the head with this one. We cannot blame Branca or Stramaccioni for reasons due to the players being extremely awesome elsewhere, but then not fitting into the Inter tactical system of play the moment we get them. This is just a play of chance that all directors and managers take risk on, from EPL and Bundesliga to Ligue 1 and Serie A. There is no way to truly know who will fit in and who will not. People expected Milito to be a benched player in August of 2009… look at where he took us.

  • jr

    not good enough, money would be wasted. million better options out there. his passing is atrocious.

  • interdonesia

    and gargano has moral obligation to train his passing much much better

    • Rafael Vieri

      That’s really something he should do. If he did that, he’d be an idol on Inter.

 
 

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